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Fact-checking Donald Trump’s claims about Syria and US troop withdrawal

President Donald Trump, joined by Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, speaks during a briefing with senior military leaders at the White House on Oct. 7, 2019. (AP/Kaster) President Donald Trump, joined by Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, speaks during a briefing with senior military leaders at the White House on Oct. 7, 2019. (AP/Kaster)

President Donald Trump, joined by Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, speaks during a briefing with senior military leaders at the White House on Oct. 7, 2019. (AP/Kaster)

Bill McCarthy
By Bill McCarthy October 8, 2019
Miriam Valverde
By Miriam Valverde October 8, 2019

President Donald Trump shocked lawmakers from both parties recently when he announced the United States would be withdrawing troops from the Syrian border with Turkey.

Political leaders and military officials said the U.S. troop presence in northeast Syria helps keep Islamic State terrorists in check and prevents Iranian and Russian aggression. And they worried about the Turkish military retaliating against Kurdish U.S. allies in the region.

Facing a bipartisan backlash, Trump defended his thinking on Twitter and at an Oct. 7 press conference. He made a number of claims that needed a fact-check.

The Trump campaign referred our inquiries to the White House and Defense Department, neither of which responded to our questions by deadline.

"The United States was supposed to be in Syria for 30 days, that was many years ago. We stayed and got deeper and deeper into battle with no aim in sight."

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Trump’s claim about an early timeline is wrong.

Multiple experts told us that they had never heard of a specific timeline for the U.S. involvement in Syria, which started in late 2015 under former President Barack Obama. And Brett McGurk, Trump’s former special envoy to the anti-ISIS coalition, responded to Trump on Twitter, saying "none of this is true."

"I’m not aware of a commitment to only have U.S. troops in Syria for 30 days that was made ‘many years ago,’" said Will Todman, associate fellow in the Middle East program and the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Trump could have been referring back to when he first ordered the removal of U.S. troops from Syria in December 2018. He gave the Defense Department a 30-day timeline for withdrawal. Trump backtracked shortly after, saying the military could take a few months to get out of Syria. 

"When I arrived in Washington, ISIS was running rampant in the area. We quickly defeated 100% of the ISIS Caliphate."

This claim is misleading. While ISIS’s land holdings have been depleted, the group still poses a legitimate threat.

According to data we have analyzed, ISIS controlled about 89% less territory at the start of 2018 as compared with the beginning of Trump’s presidency. This map from the Congressional Research Service shows the extent of lost ISIS territory through August 2018.

But it’s a far cry to say ISIS has been defeated — even if its physical land holdings have been largely dismantled. Experts told us ISIS is still capable of carrying out attacks across the globe. The New York Times reported that as many as 18,000 fighters remain in Iraq and Syria. 

"....including capturing thousands of ISIS fighters, mostly from Europe."

Trump is wrong to claim that the majority of ISIS fighters captured in Syria came from Europe. 

About 8,000 of the roughly 10,000 ISIS fighters behind bars in northeast Syria are Iraqi or Syrian nationals, according to a report from the inspectors general of the Defense Department, State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development. 

A minority of those fighters — about 2,000 — are from other countries, including 800 who are believed to be from European nations

"But Europe did not want them back, they said you keep them USA! I said ‘NO, we did you a great favor and now you want us to hold them in U.S. prisons at tremendous cost. They are yours for trials.’"

It’s true that European nations have rejected ISIS prisoners. Contrary to what Trump said, however, that has not increased the burden faced by the United States.

Many European countries have refused to take back ISIS fighters who were captured in Syria after leaving their countries, experts told PolitiFact. And the United Kingdom, Todman said, has stripped some ISIS fighters of their citizenship. 

"European countries have been very reluctant to repatriate their foreign fighters given the lack of evidence and attendant difficulties in prosecuting on criminal charges," said Bruce Hoffman, senior fellow for counterterrorism and homeland security at the Council on Foreign Relations.

The countries, Hoffman added, have "no idea how to reintegrate them back into western societies in a way that ensures (they) will not pose a threat."

That said, Europe’s resistance has not meant that much more work for the United States. "Europe has been reluctant to take them back, but has not foisted them on the U.S.," said John Mueller, professor of political science at the Ohio State University.

The captured fighters are being held in "pop-up prisons" operated by the Syrian Democratic Forces with "meager resources" provided by the United States, McGurk said on Twitter.

"When I took over, our Military was totally depleted. Now it is stronger than ever before."

This claim is heavy on hyperbole and short on truth. The military wasn’t depleted when Trump took office, and his efforts to grow the military have been within historic norms. 

In July 2017 we rated False Trump’s claim of achieving a "historic increase in defense spending." Trump’s proposed base spending cap for 2017-18 defense spending was $603 billion, a 9.4% increase. But there had been 10 years since 1977 when the base level had gone up by more than that, and in some years, the increase more than doubled Trump’s.

Trump also has claimed troops received "one of the biggest pay raises" ever, and that it was the first pay increase in "more than 10 years." We rated that claim Pants on Fire.

After taking office, Trump’s White House website said that "our Navy has shrunk from more than 500 ships in 1991 to 275 in 2016." The numbers checked out, but experts said the reason is that ships today are more expensive and powerful than in the past. As a matter of policy, the Navy has chosen to put more technology and money into a smaller number of bigger ships. The Navy remained powerful compared with other countries, experts said. 

As of Oct. 8, the Navy has 290 deployable battle force ships.

Trump’s promise to build a Navy of 350 surface ships and submarines is In the Works.

"When I took over our military, we didn't have ammunition. I was told by a top general — maybe the top of them all — ‘Sir, I'm sorry. Sir, we don't have ammunition.’ "

This exchange is unconfirmed. Trump made a similar claim in September, identifying former Defense Secretary James Mattis as the source of the ammunition comment. 

According to Trump, Mattis told him early in Trump’s administration the military was "very low on ammunition" when they were at a position "with a certain country" and "may have had a conflict." 

"And he said to me, ‘Sir, if you could, delay it, because we’re very low on ammunition’," Trump said in September.

We did not find public confirmation from Mattis that such a conversation took place. Trump could be talking about the Defense Department’s shortage and redistribution of weapons around the time he became president.

"The president appears to be exaggerating ordnance shortfalls for ISIS operations around the time he took office," tweeted Paul D. Shinkman, a national security correspondent who wrote a related February 2017 U.S. News & World Report article.

"Shortages of bombs and other munitions" forced the military to get weapons from its headquarters in other parts of the world in order to carry out its air campaign against the Islamic State, said U.S. News & World Report’s article.

In February 2016, then-Defense Secretary Ash Carter raised concern about the weapons shortages and asked Congress for $2 billion more to increase bomb production. By March, the article said, manufacturers began to significantly increase their output.

U.S. News & World Report quoted a spokesman for the Joint Staff, Air Force Col. Randall Ackerman, as saying that a shortage problem persisted in early 2017 and that they were determining if existing munitions within one combatant command could be redistributed to replenish shortfalls in munitions in another.

The story reported that officials for the campaign against ISIS said that the U.S.-led coalition had enough weapons to carry out its mission. It quoted an unnamed spokesman for Operation Inherent Resolve as saying that their fight was "not affected because of a lack of munitions."

"The two most unhappy countries at this move are Russia & China."

Russia stands to benefit from the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria, while China might be disadvantaged by instability in the region.

The United States and Russia are on opposite sides of the complex Syrian civil war, with Russia backing the Syrian government and the United States supporting opposition groups. Russian President Vladimir Putin has said American troops shouldn’t be in Syria, arguing that their presence is illegitimate because it was not approved by a United Nations Security Council resolution and because the Syrian government did not invite the United States into its country.

"Russia and the Syrian regime will both benefit," Todman wrote in a blog post about Trump’s most recent announcement. "Russia will further enhance its ability to determine Syria’s future because the United States is giving up a key aspect of its leverage in Syria without gaining any concessions from the Syrian regime in return."

Broadly speaking, Todman told PolitiFact, China benefits from stability in the Middle East, which allows it to pursue its economic interests. 

"However, China has not contributed seriously to security operations in the region — it relies on the United States and others to do that," Todman said. "Therefore, China opposes the potential withdrawal of U.S. forces from eastern Syria because it fears prolonged instability that could ensue in the resource-rich area, which could harm its economic interests."

When Trump in December 2018 announced U.S. troops’ withdrawal from Syria, he also claimed that "Russia, Iran, Syria & many others" were "not happy." We rated that False.

"The UK was very thrilled at this decision."

We’ve seen no public comments of excitement from Boris Johnson, the United Kingdom’s prime minister. (We checked his official social media accounts, latest statements, and media reports.)

Johnson’s spokesman on Oct. 8 said Britain was deeply concerned that Turkey planned to launch a military campaign in northern Syria, and that U.S. troops movements are a matter for the United States, Reuters reported.

Andrew Murrison, a junior Foreign Office minister said he had "no idea" where Trump’s remark came from, the Guardian reported Oct. 8. "It certainly isn’t based upon the conversation that my right honourable friend (Foreign secretary Dominic Raab) had with Secretary of State Pompeo last night," Murrison said.

"As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!)"

Trump’s claim that he has destroyed Turkey’s economy before is a reference to his pressure on Turkey for the 2018 release of Andrew Brunson, an American citizen and pastor who lived in Turkey for more than 20 years. Turkey detained Brunson in October 2016 on charges of supporting a terrorist organization and political or military espionage. Brunson denied the charges.

The Trump administration called for Turkey’s release of Brunson, it doubled tariffs on steel and aluminum from Turkey, and in August 2018 placed economic sanctions on Turkish officials.

"Recent conflicts between Turkey's central bank and government have put pressure on the lira, which has shed nearly 40% of its value this year and is one of the worst-performing currencies of 2018," Business Insider reported Oct. 11, 2018.

Brunson was convicted on Oct. 12, 2018, on charge of aiding terrorism but was released the same day and subsequently returned to the United States. A judge determined that Brunson’s two-year detainment and good conduct counted toward his sentence.

The United States in November 2018 lifted the sanctions on Turkey’s officials.

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Brett McGurk on Twitter, Oct. 7, 2019

Brett McGurk on Twitter, Oct. 7, 2019

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