Stand up for the facts!

Our only agenda is to publish the truth so you can be an informed participant in democracy.
We need your help.

More Info

I would like to contribute

Kelda Helen Roys

stated on June 6, 2018 in statements:

On participating in a debate for Democratic gubernatorial candidates.

Ten Democrats running for governor have qualified to appear on the August 2018 primary ballot, but a debate before the primary might limit the participants to four.

By Tom Kertscher June 7, 2018

Kelda Roys, Democrat for governor, commits to participating in debate, then withdraws commitment

The Wisconsin Broadcasters Association’s decision to hold a debate with no more than four of the 10 Democratic candidates for governor caused so much consternation among the candidates and others that the association is reconsidering its decision.

Amid the backlash, did Kelda Helen Roys, arguably one of the leading candidates, change her position on attending the debate?

We go to our Flip-O-Meter, which examines an official's consistency on an issue. (It does not pass a judgement on a politician who changes positions, or determine if any shift is good policy or good politics.)

The decision

The broadcasters association, which represents nearly all radio and television broadcasters in the state, announced June 4, 2018, the criteria it would use for determining which candidates would be invited to its debate on July 27, 2018, in Madison, less than three weeks before the primary election.

Sign up for PolitiFact texts

Saying it would invite "the most significant candidates," the association detailed how up to four of the Democratic gubernatorial candidates (as well as up to four Republicans in the U.S. Senate race) would be included. The main criterion: Results of the Marquette University Law School Poll released closest to the date of the debate.

The Flip-O-Meter

The Flip-O-Meter rates an official's consistency on an issue. Some voters appreciate politicians who are flexible and have the ability to compromise or adapt their positions to the wishes of their voters. Still, accusations of shifting positions are common in politics, and we’ve found that an analysis of the shift and the degree of change can be informative.

The Flip-O-Meter has three ratings:

NO FLIP – No significant change in position.
HALF FLIP – A partial change in position.
FULL FLOP – A complete change in position.

The same day – as some candidates and the Wisconsin Democratic Party called on the association to reconsider – Charles Franklin, the poll’s director, said the law school does not support using the poll to determine which Democratic gubernatorial candidates would be invited.

"All polls have a margin of error, making small percentage differences between candidates in a crowded field especially uncertain," he said.

Roys: I’m in

On June 5, 2018, the day after the criteria were announced, Roys’ campaign issued a statement to Associated Press reporter Scott Bauer, saying in part:

Kelda is looking forward to joining three of her competitors in this debate and continuing to share her positive vision for the future of Wisconsin.

Roys campaign spokesman Brian Evans told us that when Bauer asked for the campaign’s reaction to the criteria, he thought Bauer wanted to know whether the campaign thought Roys would meet the criteria to participate.

The campaign’s statement was later clarified to say the statement had been based on the campaign’s assumption that Marquette would do another poll before the debate.

Roys didn’t fare well in the most recent Marquette poll, done in March 2018, which asked respondents if they had a favorable or unfavorable view of the candidates. On Roys, 92 percent of respondents said they hadn’t heard enough about her or didn’t know her enough to have an opinion.

Two days before the broadcast association’s announcement, however, she gained momentum by winning a straw poll at the state Democratic Party convention.

So, Roys committed to participating in the debate, even going so far as to presume she would qualify.

But she would withdraw her commitment.

Roys: Actually ...

The change came later the same day, when Bauer quoted Roys as saying to the broadcasters association:

We are confident that my campaign will qualify for inclusion in the debate, but given the flawed criteria you are using to decide who is included in your debate, I cannot in good conscience commit to attending.

So, Roys didn’t flatly state she would not participate in the debate.

Donald Trump

stated on September 29, 2024 in a rally in Erie, Pennsylvania

Vice President Kamala Harris “even wants to legalize fentanyl.”

But she was no longer committing to participate.

Moreover, after Bauer tweeted that Roys had changed her position and was now against the debate, Evans tweeted in response:

Mistake was mine, apologies. Statement was based on the work Kelda has done to attend as many forums as possible all across WI, as well as our confidence that she will meet the criteria the WBA put out. I had not checked whether Kelda thought the criteria were fair or democratic.

Like us on Facebook. Follow us on Twitter: @PolitiFactWisc

Then on June 6, 2018, two days after the criteria were announced, Roys released an open letter to the association, which said in part:

I strongly object to limiting the number of candidates in the debate, especially using the arbitrary, inaccurate, and undemocratic criteria put forward by WBA. …

Again, no more commitment to participate.

(Later on June 7, 2018, the day we published this article, the association canceled the debate.)

Our rating

Initially, Roys essentially committed to participating in a Wisconsin Broadcasters Association debate that would be limited to four of the 10 Democratic candidates for governor, saying she "is looking forward to joining three of her competitors in this debate."

But later the same day, and again the following day, Roys issued statements changing her position. She didn’t flatly refuse to participate. But saying she objected to the criteria, she withdrew her commitment, saying: "I cannot in good conscience commit to attending."

For a complete change in position, we give Roys a Full Flop.

Share the Facts